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This was a little creepy (Tales from the CCU)

This happened at work quite awhile ago. We had a guy come in for abdominal pain. Very vague. He apparently needed CCU because his blood pressure was labile ... it was prone to change fairly drastically for no reason. A general surgeon was consulted to see him, and when she came in, she started pressing on his abdomen, like they all do.

I have to admit that I only know these details second-hand... For that night, I was stuck in CVVH. When you have a patient on CVVH, you are chained to the room. It is a very helpless feeling to see a patient crashing, nurses running about, and there is little to nothing you can do to help. I could make phone calls from the desk, order stuff on the computer, and make really fast runs to get supplies here or there, but otherwise was stuck where I was. It sucked.

So mere minutes after the surgeon left, the patient turned "white as a sheet" as we say and said he didn't feel well. Uh-oh. Why? Blood pressure had gone from low 100's to about 50. Why? Who knows? Just send off about 10 blood tests, and start pumping fluid into him! Which we did. When the blood count came back, we all started to have a small inkling of what was going on.... his blood count was 18. Normal is around 40, but depending on the person, we typically don't transfuse until you're at 24-29.

So they started pouring blood into him as fast as they possibly could, and actually stabilized him enough to go for a field trip to the CAT scanner. CT showed an enormous ruptured abdominal aortic aneurysm ("triple A's" we call 'em). Uh-oh.

Believe it or not, we aren't at the creepy part yet.

Now, granted, the guy was old.... well into his 80's, although he looked to be in his 70's. He's now intubated, sedated, unable to talk, and most likely restrained. Now we learn that he's bleeding out into his abdomen with every single heartbeat. The powers that be decide that he is NOT a surgical candidate (again, I have no details :( Sorry!). So after talking at length with the family, the family decides to "pull the plug" so to speak. Growing up, I always took that quite literally, and was actually surprised to learn that "pulling the plug" doesn't mean what I thought it did. You can't just unplug the ventilator, you have to extubate as well. Who knew? :-)

Still with me here? Good. So the family all goes in there and it finally hits me (from across the unit, where I am chained to CVVH) that the moment we stop pumping blood into him, he'll die. We've turned the sedation off to allow the family to say their good-byes, and all I can think is that the last this guy knew, his belly hurt really bad, and then they stuck this tube down his throat. He has no idea that his fate had been decided just moments before, and that that fate is death. Normally, with deaths in our unit, some are sudden, but "predictable" ... ie someone comes in with a huge brain bleed, and despite our best efforts, they die from it. The brain bleed may have happened a mere few hours before, but it's not a surprising thing to die from. But for this poor guy... all he had was a stupid stomach-ache a mere few hours before, and unlike Mr. BrainBleed, he is now fully conscious.

The family is crying, the nurses working on him were crying... it was a sad thing. We don't often have to tell fully awake people that they are going to die - soon. Within minutes. This then sets off a debate between me and my coworkers. At this point I'm assuming (hoping) that someone has told this guy that he's going to die. I ask the 2 RN's working on him the most (who are out at the desk while the family is alone with the patient), "So... has anyone told him?" And one responds, "Why? I sure wouldn't want to know... just tell me that I'll be going to sleep soon and be done with it." WHAT?! I'm a little shocked by this. Granted, I don't know the guy, but we RN's are only human. We do sometimes project our own beliefs into a situation. To this day, I'm still assuming that the family told him, and even if they didn't come right out and say it, he had to have known because they were all, um, telling him goodbye. But I still think it was up to the nurse to tell him what exactly was about to happen, and at least reassure him that we were going to drug him up with morphine so it wouldn't hurt or anything. And maybe she did do that... at that point, it was near the end of the shift and I had many things to do with my own patient.

Sure enough, he died within minutes of us "withdrawing support." I don't know if I've been able to convey just how weird it was for us (me) to know with a high degree of accuracy when he would die. It was hugely different from withdrawing support from a very sick and for the most part unconcious patient, or at least one that had been on support for weeks. This guy ate breakfast at his dining room table that morning.

So yeah, I know... not the most pleasant topic. But I'm curious to know how ya'll feel.... if you were in his gown, what would you want to know? Who would you want to tell you? I would want to know everything from everyone. I would want to know what was going on, and who decided, on what basis, and is it going to hurt? I may just have some last minute things to think about.

Comments

Posted by K on January 22, 2003 01:20 PM

Oh my.


Chilling story. Thank you so much for posting it and all of these first-person accounts. I really, really "enjoy" reading them. Honestly.


If you're asking me, yes, I would want to know. I know not everyone would be the same way. But it seems like the best you could do is ask the family whether they think he would want to know or not. He can't answer that question, and no one would know any better than them. If they think he should know, one of them might be brave enough to tell him themselves, or they might prefer a nurse to do it. Does this seem like it would work? I know they're going through an unimaginable hell already without having to make more choices like this, but it seems like getting a chance to decide can't be worse than not.


Caryn, for the record, if this is ever me, please just say to me "Kev, I have the worst possible news, they have done everything they can do and it is not enough, and you have only two minutes left to live." I would definitely want to hear that.


That way I'd have a chance to tell you where I hid all the gold bullion I stole from Turkish pirates in 1634.

Posted by K on January 22, 2003 01:23 PM

Keep this stuff coming. Maybe you'd occasionally like to post a few "greatest hits" from the last 6(?) years as well?

Posted by tennille on January 22, 2003 09:47 PM

wow. i'm stunned. i think i'd want the doc to tell me with all the family there, and in the way K said.


did this guy have a say in the matter? like, if after someone told him, could he say like, NO don't "pull the plug"? is this why we should have living wills?


for my record, if anything should happen to me where there would be a choice of pulling any plugs...please wait a few weeks to see if a miracle happens.

Posted by tennille on January 22, 2003 09:50 PM

oh and /comfort, that had to been hard to go through :( /hugs for gina

Posted by amy on January 23, 2003 07:16 AM

Yes, I would want to know. Geena, your being a nurse is fantastic: I really admire your spirit to be able to deal with mortality day after day. Most people, myself included, like to live their lives thinking that this kind of thing won't happen to them.

Posted by petehed on January 23, 2003 08:45 AM

I would want to know. Always.
I would also want to know why I wasn't considered a "surgical candidate".
Definitely, definitely keep these coming G.
The strength of person it requires to do your job...

Posted by Geena on January 23, 2003 01:51 PM

"Not a surgical candidate" almost always means "will not survive surgery." Or will be so maimed by it that the patient would live out their lives on hemodialysis, trached, unable to get out of bed, consumed from the inside out by infection after infection with a miniscule chance of ever really enjoying life again. We see this way more often than we see families making the hard decision. I believe wholeheartedly that the family made a horrendously difficult, but correct decision.
For that, they have my undying respect and complete admiration. I see so many families think that they're giving pop a shot at life, only to have us endlessly torture them with "medical care." Medical science can save your life at this point, but we've not yet learned how to give back quality of life. It is still possible to live as a vegetable and be conscious. And it's a fate FAR worse than death.

Posted by anonymous on July 21, 2003 02:05 AM

Geena....I'm must reading this message and I know this was my patient so I will refrain from putting my name here. You KNOW who I am. The family DID tell him that he was passing away and were crying and telling past stories of their times together. It was really sad and happened really suddenly. The family was great and it was a very sad loss despite his age and the hundreds of deaths I have witnessed. He was not a surgical candidate based on the size and damage of his AAA. Thanks for seeing the depth and drama in this loss. You expressed it beautifully and respectfully.

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